Monday, December 29, 2008

Love God with your Mind!

"Sadly, perhaps no group is more gullible to these sorts of claims than evangelical Christians." ~Todd Bolen

The unfortunate thing is he could be talking about a wide variety of claims. In this specific case he is talking about the claim a new movie makes that Noah's Ark has been found on a mountain in Iran, but the fact is that Christians are often far too willing to welcome any harebrained idea with open arms, so long as it appears to be at least mildly on "their side." Poor scholarship and a lack of discernment are rampant in the church today, and at times that seems especially true in the more conservative circles. Perhaps it is because there are so few truly conservative scholars doing work today that anything published that seems to support of conservative view is hailed as "proof that the Bible is true!", before the truth of its claims are fairly evaluated. I am, perhaps, being excessively harsh. I will not deny that there are some good, Christian scholars at work and it is possible that even some of the unscholarly "proofs" have some value in them. Nevertheless, we should be able to do better. Christians should be on the leading edge of scholarship in every field, instead of lagging behind, piggy-backing on the shoulders of people who have a different set of foundational beliefs.

This, roughly, is the topic of conversation that came up the other day as my family was talking. We came up with 3 specific areas of study where not only do we rather disagree with the general direction that "secular" scholars are taking the field, but where there is a lack of good, Bible-based scholars.

1. The study of origins (Creation vs. Evolution). This is my dad's passion, and I admit, I take more than a passing interest in it. The thing is, my dad really believes that the Bible contains the answers to the debate and that in ignoring that, both secular and (often) Christian scientists have taken a wrong turn. Unfortunately, Christian scholars often also have really bad science, making them unacceptable to both sides. With "better" (though really also far from perfect) science on the side of the evolutionists, many Christians have been enticed away from faith in the Bible and even faith in God. If only we had a few good scientists who also had good theology! (Some good rhetoric and logic skills wouldn't hurt either. I've seen too many decent scientists/theologians who lose on their presentations.)

2. Counseling and the interaction between soul, brain, and body. (Psychology and Psychiatry vs. Biblical or Nouthetic Counseling) This was brought up by my brother, but is also an area in which I am interested. The problem is that, in general, Psychology and Biblical Counseling are diametrically opposed. Secular Psychology assumes that people are basically good and the Bible says that people are basically sinful. With this very basic difference in understanding of the root of people's problems, obviously the proffered solutions will differ greatly. Psychology, as I understand it, claims to deal more with the immaterial part of a person (mind, soul, emotions, etc.) The Bible was written by the One who created the immaterial part of a person, so it seems likely that, when applied properly, it would have better answers than those made up by other fallible humans. Therefore, I think Biblical Counseling has an edge over modern Psychology. However, we are not merely immaterial beings - we have a physical part, and the two interact and are inseparable. There are times when something going on in the physical body affects the "psyche" or soul. Unfortunately, there are relatively few Biblical counselors (or even Psychologists) who know much of anything about medicine or the brain. Psychiatrists try to fill this need, but there are very few Psychiatrists with a high view of scripture. I dare say there may be some, but I've never heard of any. Think of the connections that could be made and problems that could be solved by a Biblical Counselor who also happened to be a Neuropsychiatrist. Perhaps instead of recklessly trusting drugs that we don't understand to change behavior they could actually get to the root of any physical causes while still counseling godliness for any spiritual causes.

3. Archaeology (especially as it relates to the Bible). This has been my area of consideration for the past semester, and I have probably already written about it. Oh well, at the risk of repeating myself, I'll talk about it anyway. I admit it. I've been brought up to believe the Bible. So imagine my surprise when I realized that almost no one at my school (teacher-wise, at least) believed anything in the Bible. Ok, actually, I wasn't that surprised, and it wasn't quite that bad. Many of the teachers believe parts. What did surprise me, though, was the fact that some of the harshest critics of the historicity of the Bible are theologians. I was also surprised to find that the most conservative scholars in the field didn't even take the Bible seriously. Some of the conclusions they draw, while seeming to support the Bible, in my view actually rather undermine it. Let me try to give an example to explain. The Bible says that Abraham left Haran and went into Canaan (see Genesis 12). Scholars, perhaps because they don't believe the Bible to be anything more than a rough historical remembrance of events long ago, say, "Hmm...let's look for a time when people were migrating from Mesopotamia to Canaan to try to fix the time of the Patriarchs." And if they find such a time, they say, "See, the Bible is true, in that it faithfully preserved a memory of the past. Abraham himself probably didn't exist, but people like him did!" On the other hand, I, believing Abraham to be a real person, would say, "Wouldn't Abraham's migration be rather unique at the time he left? Otherwise, why would God have to give him special instructions? And if He did, why would it take any special faith on Abraham's part to follow them? If everyone else was doing it, what was the big deal? Wouldn't it seem more likely that this movement of Abraham was very unusual at this time?" I could be wrong, but looking at the Bible, I often find that I would make fundamentally different assumptions than those that most scholars make.) At any rate, the more I learn about archaeology, the more questions I have. What is presented in class really doesn't fit with what the Bible says, which brings many questions to my mind. Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many people in the field asking those same questions. There is such a need for conservative Christians in archaeology!

I'll add a couple disclaimers here. :)
1. I by no means want to set up scientific knowledge as a sort of "savior." I do think, though, that as Christians we should pursue knowledge, both scientific and other, to the glory of God, for the furtherance of the kingdom, and to help us better understand Him. As Christians who know and worship the God of truth, I also think we are best equipped to find more truth, if we apply ourselves rightly.

2. Obviously, I believe the Bible is true, and I take a fairly literal, conservative interpretation of it. This point of view is generally scorned by researchers and scientists in the above fields. Leaving aside the question of whether or not this is the correct view of scripture, I think that science is done a great diservice by people automatically rejecting anything from this view point. If nothing else, it offers a different set of base assumptions and therefore asks different questions than pretty much everyone else in the field. I would contend that if science is to progress and stay healthy, it needs to be able to answer these questions too.

And the conclusion? I still have more questions than answers, and still have only one lifetime to try to figure things out. So, if anyone reading this has interests in any of these areas (or other areas - we need Christians everywhere!) maybe let this challenge you to pursue excellence in your field, to be uniquely Biblical in your viewpoint, and to share your findings with the world.

4 comments:

Dr Chris Hill said...

Hi Alana,

I know I've posted here before and I don't want to become a bore, but as you appear to be open minded on the subject of religion here's a good video I found on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

The link below is to a documentary on the origins of the bible. If correct, and I've not checked any of its claims myself (I guess I'm taking them on faith!), it really is an eye opener on the subject.

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v171338519z8pfNYe?autoWatch=true

Please accept my apologise if I'm becoming a bore, I really don't mean to be.

Keep well.
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Alana said...

Hi Chris,

I apologize for having not replied to your comments previously. I meant to do so and then put it off and never got around to it.

I would not really consider myself open-minded the the subject of religion. I believe in the Bible and the God of the Bible. I'm sorry if anything I've said has given you a mistaken impression on that score.

I did watch the video that asked 10 questions, including "why doesn't God heal amputees?" While interesting, I could answer most of the questions posed to my own satisfaction without much mental strain. Whether or not my answers would satisfy you, however, is somewhat questionable. I find that most people start with an idea of what is true and that they can become very adept at explaining away or even ignoring evidence to the contrary, so arguing generally does very little good. Perhaps this is not true of you, but I think it is rather true of me.

This does not mean that I don't think or question things. It does mean that I trust the Bible. Let me put it this way. If God exists and if He truly is good and all powerful and the creator of the world, and if He wrote a book to reveal Himself, then doesn't it make far more sense to believe the book He wrote rather than ideas thought up by flawed humans? I think it rather comes down to a choice: will you believe the Bible or human logic? (Not that they have to contradict, but if they do, which would you choose?) I choose to believe the Bible, even when human logic seems to say that it's wrong. If you want to discuss anything further, I would be glad to. However, I must warn you that most of my arguments will be based in the Bible.

As far as the second video goes, I was only able to watch about 5 minutes. It looks interesting, but it also looks like its more sensational that scholarly. It might make some good points, but I doubt that I would find it very convincing either.

If I may ask, what is your motive? Are you trying to get people to abandon Christianity or are you really interested to know what we think or is there some other motive?

Dr Chris Hill said...

Hi Alana,

Well to answer your last question first: I'm not really sure I have a motive.

I've never been very religious, I'm CofE (which as I suppose you know is the default religion in England [Wales, Scotland, and NI, have their own versions]). I went to a CofE school where religion was a 90 sec reading, and a quick hymn, at morning assembly and that was it for the day.

So until about a year ago I was happy with that, on the very rare occasions that religion has come up I just explained I didn't believe in the silly old man with a long grey beard sitting on a cloud with angles flitting around his head, sort of God, but a more all embracing one. After which most people get bored and the conversations normally moves on to football or politics. Then I read 'The God Delusion'!

At first I was a bit angry, why was this man, Richard Dawkins (raised CofE like myself), knocking my religion. It hurts no one does it? So people want to believe in a God why should that bother me, OK muslims kill people and religion has caused many wars, but people like to fight and if it wasn't religion they'd find something else to fight over. But over the next few months it troubled me, and I started to delve further into all religions (OK mostly on the web). Then I found out about Creationism that scared me, people wanting to teach children that evolution was wrong, and not just in the US, but here in the UK! Did you know before Tony Blair (now a converted Catholic) resigned he instituted public funding for religious schools other than CofE (there is no separation of Church and state in the UK), so why fund what are effectively opposition churches? Even more shockingly, many of these schools are teaching that the earth is only 6000 years old, and that God did it, ie religion should takes precedence over science. Madness!

Over the last 9 months or so I've come to believe that most religions (CofE being one of only a few exception) are bad for mankind. And after listening to many people on the web (mostly YouTube), I know many intelligent people agree with me. There are many good reasons for why belief in the Bible is detrimental to our society out there on the web, and even more on why islam is a total menace to civilisation. Taking the Bible (or anything else) simply on faith, should not be seen as a badge of honour, but as stupidity of the most damaging kind.

Please accept I have no wish to insult you, I accepted religion as being benign too for almost 53 years (and a very few examples are: Buddhism, CofE* etc), but most simply degrade mankind and reduce our ability to reason.

Keep well, and if you do want to watch the rest of that Bible documentary (from The Canadian Broadcasting Service) it's at:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v171338519z8pfNYe?autoWatch=true

I think you may have to type in an email address to view it in full, but it is worth watching

Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

* Did you know that the Church of England appointed is first atheist bishop (York) in the mid 1980's.
PS. Nine months later York Minster (the cathedral) was struck by lightning!

Dr Chris Hill said...

Hi again Alana,

Just a few quick thoughts further to my last post:

You say: 'if God wrote the Bible', I must admit I've never heard anyone suggest that God did write the Bible. I thought all Christians (Westboro Baptist Church excepted) accepted that the Bible was written by men. I do realise that muslims think God dictated the Koran directly to Mohamed, but they really are mad!

As for the earth only being 6000 years old, why would God try to fool use otherwise (ie with all the scientific evidence to the contrary) if that were true? I'd also be interested to know what your answers were to the ten questions posed, in that first YouTube video.

Chris Hill
(Lancaster)